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for him in the 1976 democratic primary in massachusetts. but then during the 80's and 90's on domestic policy i changed. i didn't have an ah-ha moment. i didn't have any pif pitt epiphany the social science, empirical evidence started coming. in it showed not only did it not do anything, not only was the money wasted but it was destroying the communities it was supposed to help. i'm open to empirical evidence. i was a physician, you know. if you give your patients a pill and it's killing them, you stop giving the medicine. and i think it's the old adage, you know, winston churchill said if you are not a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart. if you are still a socialist when you are 50 you have no head. i developed a head over those years. >> you have evolved this far over the last 30 odd years philosophically. where are you still evolving? what is your mind changing on. >> i stopped evolving about 20 years ago. >> good for you. >> i'm frozen. i haven't had a new idea since 1990. you know, evolution only takes you so far. changing my views on domestic policy was not that great a
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